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GUS Daily Digest Fri, 29 Oct 93 0:07 MDT Volume 7: Issue 28 Today's Topics: Any Mod Player for windows? Don't post GUS Game Support Petition replys to the Digest! Dune and GUS GUS Daily Digest V7 #27 (3 msgs) GUS Petition... sort of, anyway Indy Car Racing Demo joystick Y-adapter & GUS keyboard locks up sometimes when I boot! Motherboard problems (2 msgs) NHLPA'94 Number of Registered Users Silverball Silverball info Some modest suggestions Star Control II Subject: subscribe Tracker programs... Two Joysticks Ultramid and UMB's X-Wing and GUS (again) Zork(){return(2);} Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 10:43:52 -0400 From: KWAN RICHARD SIK YIU <kwanr@ecf.toronto.edu> Subject: Any Mod Player for windows? Does anyone remember the beta version of modus? It is a good mod player under windows, unfortunately it makes my windows crash everytime I quit. Is there a newer version of modus, or a good mod player for windows? I've tried WMP but it takes a lot of CPU power, causing lag or even frequent pause while playing. Thanks in advance! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 10:05:58 -0700 (PDT) From: roberts@brahms.amd.com (Dave Roberts) Subject: Don't post GUS Game Support Petition replys to the Digest! > Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 00:00:00 -0400 > From: paul.reinis@canrem.com (Paul Reinis) > Subject: GUS PETITION > > NAME: Paul Reinis > EMAIL: paul.reinis@canrem.com > ADDRESS: 122 Melrose Ave > ADDRESS: Toronto, Ontario > ADDRESS: Canada M5M 1Y7 Well, Paul, the format's right, but it's in the wrong place :-). Seriously, send it to me, not the digest. I don't want all this stuff clogging up the digest, and my scripts won't extract it from here. I'll let this one slide and enter you by hand, but don't anybody else do this. My address is: Dave Roberts Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. I/O and Network Products Division david.roberts@amd.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 93 21:31 GMT0 From: Paul Kokis <scratcher@cix.compulink.co.uk> Subject: Dune and GUS In-Reply-To: <9310280842.AA24474@grue.dsd.ES.COM> Has anyone here played Dune? I've been trying - unsuccessfully - to get digital speech playing via SBOS. I can get music using the -o2 switch, but nothing I try gives me speech. I'm using a fairly recent SBOS, but I still have my v1.20 version if I need to use it B-) I'm not using Stacker or any strange TSRs (apart from SBOS B->), so AFAIK it's SBOS that's the problem. Can anyone help? Paul - The GUS fan from the UK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 93 09:37:45 CDT From: surgeon@esds.vss.fsi.com Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V7 #27 >Date: Wed, 27 Oct 93 15:30:31 CDT >From: Robert Schmanski <Robert.Schmanski@mixcom.mixcom.com> >Subject: BONUS disks > >Hi, > I was really excited yesterday when I got a package from Gravis in >the mail. Could it be my update disks?!? Hm, it's pretty thin, and pretty >light. Sure enough, I opened it up and there was ONE disk inside labled >Power Chords & Midisoft. I guess that this is what "BONUS" means in the >registration database. 'Kind of a dissapointment considering that my GUS >came with version 2.05 disks. (What is the difference between 2.05 and 2.06 >besides PowChrd & MidSft?) And on top of that, my original disks were >defective. I had originally worked around this by borrowing a friends copy >of the 2.06 disks. (I know that this probably violates the disclaimer on >the disk envelope, but I was desperate.) So now I'm stuck with 5 useless >2.05 disks, and 1 "BONUS" disk. HELP! Gravis, why did I only get the >"BONUS" disk, did you think I had the 2.06 disks, or is there no difference >between 2.05 and 2.06 besides the "BONUS" software? I'd at least like one >working copy of the disks. >-- >Bob Schmanski >Email Adress: Robert.Schmanski@mixcom.com > or: bschmans@solaria.mil.wi.us > I'm in this database also with BONUS by my name. I received the package in > the mail yesterday and it had 1 disk in it with Powerchords/Recording > Sessions on it. There was also a manual included for it. I have version > 2.05 of the disks, which came with my Gravis Ultrasound. What is the > difference between the 2.05 and 2.06 disks? Do I need to download the > 2.06 disks? > ,---.__________________ _ ============ . > /' Nelson Crumbaker \ | \ I_ O _I_,==.: > | ncrumbak@no2sun.cray.com >----|===`------'I `---' I | |: > | Field Test Engineer / _ \ I I | |:' > | Cray Research Inc. / ( `-,-----============:__;: > | ,---.________________/ (_ O __) \_ : > |/' (_______) (_) Nice sig! My original 2.05 disks that came with my GUS were defective (disk4, I believe). I downloaded the 2.06L disks (fortunately I have ftp access) and later the 2.06 to 2.06a patch file. I received my BONUS disk yesterday (the commercial programs not present on the 2.06L disk set). I believe what I have now is equivalent to the 2.06a disk set. Is this a valid conclusion? P.S. There are 6 2.06L disks vs 5 2.05 disks. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Surgeon FlightSafety International, Visual Simulation Systems 2590 North Highway 94 Saint Charles, MO 63301-0037 E-Mail: surgeon@vss.fsi.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- >Date: Wed, 27 Oct 93 16:56 GMT0 >From: Phil Morris <pmorrisb@cix.compulink.co.uk> >Subject: RAM chips for GUS > >I have some RAM chips which I want to use in a GUS. They are labelled as >follows: > >TMS44C256-80N >EEP 12704 > >They're 20-pin packages. > >Will these work okay in the GUS? > >If I was to use the wrong chips would this damage the GUS, the chips or both? > >Thanks, Phil A quick examination of the TI databook revealed that these are 256kx4, page-mode DRAMs. I believe that these meet the requirements shown in the FAQ. Mike Surgeon >Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 8:22:32 -0700 (PDT) >From: ALAN ROBB <"GVHS::AROBB"@LOKI.GVHS.GOV.BC.CA> >Subject: sierra drivers > >Can someone repost the location of the Sierra drivers for the GUS. >Thanks. Also, am having a hard time with Halloween Harry as well. Are there >any switches etc. I need to use to run it? >thanks I was able to get sound in Halloween Harry using SBOS 1.2 (as suggested by someone in a previous digest). Mike Surgeon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 14:15:51 -0400 From: "Evan Champion" <evanc@carbon.isis.org> Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V7 #27 What is happening with MegaEm? Has Gravis bought it? When will they be releasing a new version? Thanks! Evan -- Evan Champion "So the universe is not quite as you thought it evanc@carbon.isis.org was. You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then. Because you certainly can't rearrange the Ottawa, Ontario, Canada universe." -- Nightfall, Assimov/Silverberg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 93 16:43:10 From: john.smith@gravis.com Subject: GUS DAILY DIGEST V7 #27 ----------------------------- From: aswani@sound.demon.co.uk (Robert J Aswani) Subject: Jurassic Park I would love someone to prove me wrong, but Jurassic Park actually does not support the GUS 3D features, it does not even support the GUS itself. When I rang Ocean up, they told me me that there was never any plans to support the GUS in JP. So why on earth I have been reading on this digest and magazines that JP will support the GUS? ----------------------------- When Brad Craig was in the UK he actually played the game with GUS support. He has 4 calls and 1 fax into Ocean so far to try and find out what is up. ----------------------------- Date: Tue, 26 Oct 93 16:09:04 CST From: Erick_Bergquist@edtng.Kenosha.WI.US (Erick Bergquist) Subject: Silverball who makes/distributes it? I called the local software shack a week ago and they never heard of it, and said they'll try to have it in 2-3 weeks... Maybe if I get this info then they can get it faster... as I am also going to buy it for the GUS Support. Plus I've been looking for a good pball game... ----------------------------- Microleague is distributing it. C'ya John --- ~ QMPro 1.51 ~ 'My mistress eyes' are nothing like the sun..' ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 18:05:53 -0600 (CDT) From: ddebry@grue.dsd.ES.COM (Dave DeBry) Subject: GUS Petition... sort of, anyway I'd like to remind people to please post snail mail addresses of software companies who should (or already are) supporting the GUS. As of now, I have a big fat ZERO addresses. I'd like to send them that letter I posted earlier, explaining about the GUS Digests, how many readers we have, the distribution, and how we would all like to see the GUS supported. Thanks. -- Dave ddebry@ debry@ \ DeBry dsd. peruvian. | Regnant populi. (The people rule.) es. cs.utah. | Pregnant ropuli. (The snake will soon lay eggs.) com edu / ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 21:57:59 -0700 (MDT) From: Randy Nonay <rnonay@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca> Subject: Indy Car Racing Demo How do you get this demo to work with the gus? (I can't - its silent on my gus but not on a freinds sb). And if it doesn't work with the gus (in native mode) why was it posted on the Grabis BB??? It Definitely does not like sbos - causes a reboot if SBOS is installed. Any help much appreciated! Randy rnonay@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 93 15:48:27 EDT From: aa825@freenet.buffalo.edu (Stephen A. Corritore) Subject: joystick Y-adapter & GUS I recently tried a Kraft joystick Y-adapter and 2 Gravis gamepads on my GUS joystick port. In 3 different games with 2-player support, the left joystick worked fine, but when pressing either the A or B fire buttons on the right joystick, the games acted as if the lower right direction on the pad had been pressed. NHL Hockey exhibited the same effect in its calibration routine and the right joystick couldn't be calibrated as a result. Swapping the gamepads had no affect. The same Y-adapter and gamepads work fine with the built-in game port or Sound-FX Basic game port on a friend's computer. Any ideas? Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 93 10:43:54 EDT From: "NEMO G DE FURIA" <cs911084@ariel.cs.yorku.ca> Subject: keyboard locks up sometimes when I boot! Hiya, Sometimes (not all the time, about 50% of the time) when I boot my PC, the keyboard is locked, and I can't do anything except hit the reset button (can't do 3-finger salute cos the keyboard is locked). This leads me to believe that there is an interrupt conflict between the keyboard and some- thing about the GUS (perhaps SBOS?). My GUS has the default settings and works no problem, and the keyboard and the GUS work together no problem, as long as I get past the boot alright; that is, either the keyboard locks at boot-up, or everything is fine. I checked System Information in PCTools, and it tells me that SBOSDRV is the owner of the keyboard interrupt (01); it is also the owner of interrupt 0B. If someone could help me out, it'd be much appreciated. I'm using SBOS 2.06 (at least that's what it says on the upgrade disks I recieved, though when I load SBOS it says GF1 SBOS V2.08, what gives?). Nemo De Furia. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 11:54:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Eric Dittman <DITTMAN@skitzo.dseg.ti.com> Subject: Motherboard problems My system (486DX33, ISA) had a Contaq motherboard. Unfortunately, this motherboard locked up whenever I tried to use one of the 16-bit DMA channels on my GUS, so Tuesday I took it to the dealer I bought it from a year ago (I have a two year warranty) and Wednesday they called and told me the new motherboard worked just fine with 16-bit DMA channels. I picked the system up and took it home. At home I opened the case and looked at the motherboard. This motherboard was much smaller, and the two main support ICs were Samsung and uniLOGIC. At this point I started to worry, since I'd never heard of any motherboards using these support ICs before, but I decided if the motherboard worked, then I wouldn't worry about it. I plugged my VGA, keyboard, power, and speaker cables in and powered on. The first thing I noticed was the AMI BIOS on the new board was a newer revision, so I hit <DEL> to enter the BIOS setup screen. I looked around and found this version had more features. This looked good, so I exited the setup screen and booted DOS. Everything looked good until my AUTOEXEC hit the loadsbos command. I got the message that the NMI on the mother- board was disabled (however that message reads), and the loadsbos -f that follows failed. I took the system back in this morning, and am supposed to have yet another motherboard tonight. I sure hope that one doesn't have yet another problem. -- Eric Dittman Texas Instruments - Component Test Facility dittman@skitzo.dseg.ti.com (214) 480-7313 Disclaimer: Not even my opinions. I found them by the side of the road. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 22:50:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Eric Dittman <DITTMAN@skitzo.dseg.ti.com> Subject: Re: Motherboard problems The third time was the charm, in more ways than one: 1) The GUS works with 16-bit DMA channels, and the NMI on the new motherboard is not disabled. 2) The new motherboard is a much nice motherboard with 7 16-bit ISA slots (3 are also VESA local bus slots; my original and first replacement were both ISA-only). This saves me an expensive upgrade down the road! The service tech at the dealer spent about 1/2 an hour on the phone with Gravis tech support to make sure the motherboard worked with the GUS completely. I'd say that is great service both by the dealer's and Gravis' techs! -- Eric Dittman Texas Instruments - Component Test Facility dittman@skitzo.dseg.ti.com (214) 480-7313 Disclaimer: Not even my opinions. I found them by the side of the road. ------------------------------ Date: 28 Oct 93 7:49 -0700 From: Thomas Wong <twong@civil.ubc.ca> Subject: NHLPA'94 Since I didn't see any summary, and Matthew didn't answer my question..... did anyone ever figure out how to make NHLPA'94 work with the GUS? If so... HOW? SBOS in SB mode doesn't work. Thanx.... Thomas. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 09:56:09 -0300 (ADT) From: Gravis Ultrasound Lover <markus@Info.UMoncton.ca> Subject: Re: Number of Registered Users On Wed, 27 Oct 1993, Michael Smith wrote: > I recently downloaded the Sept 1993 version of the Gravis Registered User > database to look for my name in it. Out of curiosity, I found out that > there are only 9400 (or so) names in this database. Does this mean that > Gravis has only sold ten thousand GUS boards, or that only a small fraction > of the number of buyers actually register their purchase? Your second guess is more accurate. I have friends here who never sent their card and don't care. They have everything they need from Internet. The GUS was #1 once in Canada (don't know if it still is) and is close to #1 in Europe. Just imagine how many sales that means... Marc Y. Paulin - 1:255/200 - markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca - (506)856-9518 - APICS Programming Contest Winner of 1993 -=* GUS won over SB by a score of 32 to 11 *=- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 10:43:34 -0400 (EDT) From: "Adam K. Rixey" <ar2w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Silverball It's made by Epic MegaGames but distributed by Microleague Interactive Softare. In one of the pamphlets that comes with the game, there's an 800 number for "more information or to find the dealer nearst you." It's 1-800-334-6572. I'd highly recommend this game - besides being loads of fun it has excellent GUS support (Joshua Jensen, author of Gusmod, is one of the programmers). - AkR - ar2w@andrew.cmu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 93 15:00:20 CST From: Erick_Bergquist@edtng.Kenosha.WI.US (Erick Bergquist) Subject: Silverball info This is a replay I got to my SilverBall inquiry: === Silverball is published by MicroLeague Interactive Software. I bought it a 'Babages' (A more common software house) here in New York State The game itself is made Epic Megagames, the guys/girls who made 3d Woldenstein and other great shareware hits... Its VERY addicting....!! === I was suppose to send info to Paul ?, but can't find his address, so here is the info you wanted if I got a reply. Later... -- Via DLG Pro v0.995 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=//-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=\\-=-=-= ITCnet: 85:872/203 -!- KENOnet: 10:11/0 // The Project Team '93 \\ T 9 Erick_Bergquist@EDTNG.Kenosha.WI.US // CIS Major - Happy GUSing \\ P 3 [------Insert Wise Saying Here------] // Programmer/Artist\Musician \\ T -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=//-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=\\-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 06:49:55 -0600 (CST) From: E33GLASSER@sask.usask.ca Subject: Some modest suggestions Here are a couple of suggestions: 1) While it is true that paper mail is weightier than email, it also true that the dollar is mightier than the pen. An adventurous soul might want to try this experiment - send a cheque to the software company, for example Apogee, and a note saying that they may cash it IF and WHEN they have proper sound support for their game with the GUS. They will be able to see that you will put your money where your mouth is. No, I don't know any of the legal implications, etc, but I'm assuming that they can't legally or honestly cash your cheque unless they produce a patch or driver, or whatever. 2) Well, it is well over a year, and SBOS still is only 90% percent compatible. This is where things stood in Oct. 92, but actually worse! Now games are insisting on trickier memory configurations, and dblspace is taking up 44K on everybody's drives. So, any new games that are coming out always seem to take me hours to weeks to figure out how to configure them to work with sound (ie EMM386? SBOS version 1.22? 2.08?, 99.99? mega-em? AIL? ultramid?, etc etc blah etc.) After getting Flashback, though, I noticed something. It comes with a special SBOS (version 3.60) that works perfectly and sound great. Then I noticed that version 1.43 SBOS seems to work perfectly with Apogee games like BioMenace and Halloween Harry. Using specific versions of SBOS made these games very easy to use and sounded fine. So it became clear to me that there will never be an all-encompassing, universally compatible SBOS, so Forte should just STOP TRYING! Instead concentrate on making many customized versions of SBOS that work with specific games and vendors. That would be much more satisfactory than what we've had for the last year. Any comments? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 08:30:03 -0500 From: montgome@afoms.brooks.af.mil (Capt Noel D. Montgomery) Subject: Star Control II --------- The following is a converted OFFICEPOWER mail message ---------- To: gus-general@dsd.es.com CC: Subject: Star Control II New [*] Codes: [ ] Message: I ignored the thread on the weird behavior of SCII for a long time because I didn't have problems with it. I installed it when I had 256k on GUS. Then I upgraded GUS to 1 Meg and SCII still worked. Then I erased SCII and lent the game to a friend for several months. I got it back yesterday and reinstalled and I am having wierd sound problems. Does SCII check the GUS for the Priority: 2 Delivery Acknowledge [ ] View Acknowledge [ ] From: Capt Noel D. Montgom By: montgome@afoms Attachment [*] ------------------------------- ATTACHMENT ------------------------------ amount of free memory and install a different driver if it has 1Meg? Has this question been answered before? Just Curious Noel Montgomery ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 13:14:26 +0200 (EET) From: MVAIHEKOSKI@finabo.abo.fi Subject: Subject: ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 13:16:54 +0200 (EET) From: MVAIHEKOSKI@finabo.abo.fi Subject: subscribe subscribe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 93 0:24:44 PDT From: Alex <alex@four-lab1.berkeley.edu> Subject: Tracker programs... I'm trying to get into making mods with the Ultrasound and have heard that fast tracker is good...but unfortunatly i can't find it on epas or anywhere else for that matter....could someone tell me where to get this? also does anyone have any suggestions for another Mod editor? and where to get it? if i make something good i'd be sure to share it with everyone... Thanks, Alex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 17:48:38 -0100 From: "Emanuele.Pucciarelli" (Emanuele Pucciarelli) <Emanuele.Pucciarelli@p60.f511.n333.z2> Subject: Two Joysticks Hi Dean! I've read (where? I don't remember) that a plain joystick Y-cable works fine with GUS too. There's no problem. Bye, Emanuele --> Emanuele.Pucciarelli@p60.f511.n333.z2.fidonet.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 93 03:51:00 BST From: b.williams44@genie.geis.com Subject: Ultramid and UMB's Hi, This is a fix for all you people who are not using QEMM or some other memory maker besides DOS 6.0. Well what I did was get a Shareware program called DOSMAX it adds about 40k to Upper Memory Blocks and will allow you to load Ultramid high.I got it off BBS somewhere and uploaded it to Genie, but it is on Compuserve and I would bet Epa's too. It has a indepth readme file and if you just use the basic setup it will do you great! ***StarHawk*** MAY THE GUS BE WITH YOU! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 14:50:20 +0100 (MET) From: Christian Malmin <malmin@lise.unit.no> Subject: X-Wing and GUS (again) I had some troubles with my last mail, so here I try again :) I have recently bought my GUS card, and I am very pleased with it. But I have one problem that is rather annoying. When playing X-Wing (using SBOS 2.10), the explosions sounds like someone playing piano. Does anyone have a solution to this..?? Also when running the tests in SETGUS, I get a test failure from the SBOS test, with the message SBOS IRQ timeout. Is there something wrong with my card ?? (I am using default setup). Christian Malmin, University of Trondheim, Norway E-mail : malmin@stud.unit.no ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 93 9:11:34 CDT From: Jon Holt <holt@holt.camax.com> Subject: Zork(){return(2);} Does anybody know of an ftp site that still has the Return to Zork demo? My itchy wallet finger wants me to by the CD-ROM version of this game, but I want to know how well it behaves with the GUS first. -Jon -- :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: Jon Holt (holt@camax.com) - CAMAX Systems, Inc. 612/854-5300 ------------------------------ End of GUS Daily Digest V7 #28 ****************************** To post to tomorrow's digest: <gus-general@dsd.es.com> To (un)subscribe or get help: <gus-general-request@dsd.es.com> To contact a human (last resort): <gus-general-owner@dsd.es.com> FTP sites: archive.epas.utoronto.ca pub/pc/ultrasound wuarchive.wustl.edu systems/msdos/ultrasound archive.orst.edu pub/packages/gravis FTP mail server: mail-server@nike.rz.uni-konstanz.de Hints: - Get the FAQ from the FTP sites or the request server. - Mail to <gus-general-request@dsd.es.com> for info about other GUS related mailing lists (programmers, musicians, etc.). 
